{"id":919,"date":"2022-08-27T19:54:03","date_gmt":"2022-08-27T19:54:03","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.yoganandafortheworld.com\/story\/?p=919"},"modified":"2022-08-27T19:55:13","modified_gmt":"2022-08-27T19:55:13","slug":"conversations-with-ananda-ch-7-nayaswami-haridas-part-1","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.yoganandafortheworld.com\/story\/conversations-with-ananda-ch-7-nayaswami-haridas-part-1\/","title":{"rendered":"Conversations With Ananda — Ch. 7: Nayaswami Haridas, Part 1, Learning to Be Natural in Our Spiritual Search"},"content":{"rendered":"

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Nayaswamis Haridas and Roma, India, 2014<\/em><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n

Haridas came to Ananda Village<\/strong> in 1970, shortly after the community was founded. His good humor and enthusiasm brought smiles to countless visitors at The Expanding Light, Ananda\u2019s guest retreat, during the years he served there. Haridas and his wife Roma now help guide Ananda\u2019s growing work in India.\u00a0<\/p>\n

Q:<\/strong> You\u2019ve worn many hats at Ananda. Can you talk about the lessons you\u2019ve learned while holding so many jobs.<\/p>\n

Haridas:<\/strong> I tend to want to do one thing and be in one place, and that desire hasn\u2019t always been fulfilled. When I stopped and counted, ten or fifteen years ago, I realized that I\u2019d held something like seventeen jobs since moving to Ananda, and I quit counting. I\u2019ve had many duties, some running simultaneously, and it\u2019s been an excellent experience, because it has forced me to stay fresh.<\/p>\n

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Haridas, 1976<\/em><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n

I think there always needs to be a freshness, inwardly. I find that my spiritual practices tend to shift from day to day. Today there may be more emphasis on affirmation, whereas last month it was prayer. This way, I\u2019m able to approach it almost as a different person, and I can draw more of the essence from it. So keeping flexible has been very important for me.<\/p>\n

When we get too fixed in one role, we tend to start wanting to go by our own power, and pretty soon the heart shuts down. The creative thought processes get cramped, and our zest for living starts to feel crimped. But when there\u2019s the thought that God has something new for us every day, and that He\u2019s very interested and involved, it becomes a creative play.<\/p>\n

We often hold the thought that what we\u2019re doing isn\u2019t all that special and God can\u2019t be very interested. But on our path we believe that we have to challenge God \u2013 we have to go after God as He goes after us, and test Him. And every time I challenge Him, the response I get is that He\u2019s very interested, if we will only reach out, whether we\u2019re doing the dishes or anything else. If we reach out to Him, He\u2019ll give us something humorous to chew on, or He\u2019ll show us a different way, or He\u2019ll help us be more efficient, which might give us more time for pursuits that are enjoyable.<\/p>\n

Q:<\/strong> You keep challenging God?<\/p>\n

Haridas:<\/strong> Oh, yes, because I find that if I don\u2019t communicate with Him, I begin to get a feeling inside that He\u2019s withdrawn. And that\u2019s definitely a true feeling.<\/p>\n

Even if we\u2019re doing creative work, there\u2019s an enormous amount that\u2019s mechanical. Does it mean that we should simply check out for that time? I think it\u2019s when we need to be particularly vigilant, because when we\u2019re in a creative flow it\u2019s easier to feel God\u2019s presence and appreciate it, but when we\u2019re doing mechanical tasks, it\u2019s easy to go on autopilot. \u201cWhen I get through this half hour, I\u2019ll get back to God.\u201d But on some level, I think He takes pride in infusing the mundane with His spirit, and I think He does it to hearten us that we really can call on Him anytime.<\/p>\n

I often think of the disciple who asked Paramhansa Yogananda if it\u2019s possible to draw on creative inspiration at will. Yogananda replied, \u201cOh, yes! Take down this poem.\u201d Swami Kriyananda commented that it\u2019s one of the most beautiful poems in Whispers From Eternity. So I always like to say, \u201cIt\u2019s time to draw inspiration this instant. I don\u2019t want to wait even a few minutes.\u201d I can\u2019t say that it always works, but very often that simple thought will open a window to a mantra, a prayer, or some other spiritual practice that gets me back online.<\/p>\n

Q:<\/strong> You work with the guests at the retreat, don\u2019t you?<\/p>\n

Haridas:<\/strong> Oh, yes, definitely. That\u2019s what I live for. At any meal there may be a number of nationalities and backgrounds sitting at the same table. I\u2019ll look at someone and think \u201cWell, that person\u2019s probably a…\u201d and I\u2019ll fill in the blank \u2013 \u201csocial worker,\u201d \u201ccarpenter.\u201d And sometimes I\u2019m bowled over. I was talking with a woman and her husband the other day, and I thought maybe she was this or that, and she was a psychiatrist who\u2019s held in very high regard. I loved that I was so far off the mark. it gave me an incentive to be more receptive and try to feel where people are coming from.<\/p>\n

Q:<\/strong> From your perspective, what does Ananda give to people?<\/p>\n

Haridas:<\/strong> Well, whatever it is, I believe it\u2019s not from our own power, but from the power that comes through us. Perhaps God decides that this person needs to hear something or to feel a certain vibration, and He\u2019ll use us, whether or not we\u2019re able to feel it ourselves.<\/p>\n

Yogananda\u2019s power is so active here that we need to respect that it has the potency to change lives. I\u2019ve had this thought repeatedly that if I\u2019m doing my sadhana only for my own liberation, I simply lose interest, but if we think that God is hungry for channels that are pure because He can touch people\u2019s lives through them, then it behooves us to stay in high gear as best we can, without being hard on ourselves.<\/p>\n

Q:<\/strong> I asked one of our music directors, \u201cHow do you stay out of the ego while you\u2019re singing Swamiji\u2019s music?\u201d He said, \u201cYou practice and practice, and there comes a time when you begin to feel the vibrations of the music, and the grace that\u2019s flowing through it, and you increasingly find yourself absorbed in that vibration.\u201d Do you have your own ways of staying in tune with Master\u2019s ray while you\u2019re serving?<\/p>\n

Haridas:<\/strong> That\u2019s excellent advice. If we find something that tastes better, it\u2019s easy to let go of our attachment to whatever we\u2019ve been doing. And what better taste is there than God\u2019s presence?<\/p>\n

When we feel His presence within us, we\u2019re no longer so interested in whether people think we\u2019re doing a good job. We\u2019re just so grateful to feel Him with us.<\/p>\n

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Haridas and Roma in India before a public talk by Swami Kriyananda, 2008<\/em><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n

The way I try to feel His presence has changed over the years. In the past I tried to hold on so hard that it made me tense, to the extent that a part of me just broke. A department of my being broke, and I couldn\u2019t put out that same flavor of effort anymore. It was no longer meaningful for me, because there was too much strain and too much austerity and it wasn\u2019t rewarding.<\/p>\n

When that part of me broke, I decided to suspend practicing the presence for a while and just learn to relax. [Laughs.] I thought, \u201cEverybody wants to relax. I think I\u2019ll learn to relax.\u201d I did that for a time, and I still make every effort to do it. And as it became part and parcel of my being, I thought, \u201cNow let\u2019s go back to practicing the presence of God, but let\u2019s do it without strain.\u201d Let\u2019s not worry about the days when I\u2019m getting completely done-in by the demands of the work, or my karma, or my attachment to what I\u2019m doing. Let\u2019s let it go and just continue to appreciate any least bit of God\u2019s presence that I can feel, even if it\u2019s just a trickle, and pass it on. In other words, emphasize the positive.<\/p>\n

Nowadays, instead of counting the moments I\u2019ve had with God, I think of the moments when I\u2019ve had God that were particularly rich during the day. I\u2019ll remember what it felt like, and I\u2019ll try to go back into it again. I appreciate what God gives me, and when I don\u2019t have it, I take a little pilgrimage back to the moment when I was in the presence of God, and I see how far I can extend it. As Paramhansa Yogananda said, \u201cFind a little bubble of joy and puff on it.\u201d<\/p>\n

Instead of feeling uptight about the times I don\u2019t have God, I\u2019m appreciating the times when I feel His presence, and I try to expand them. Then I look forward to the next bubble. [Laughs.]<\/p>\n

The method changes. Sometimes I love nothing more than to feel the Guru\u2019s presence by visualizing his eyes. Other times it\u2019s repeating a mantra or chanting. It changes, and I try to be on guard so the spiritual practice doesn\u2019t become stale. At this point, I would rather rest and not have any spiritual practice, than sing a chant mechanically and find tremendous resistance building inside of me. It\u2019s a curious place to be, because I wonder if I\u2019m being a little too lax. But at this point it\u2019s all I can do.<\/p>\n

I also employ a lot of what a great saint of India, Swami Ramdas, called \u201cwatching the mind with amused detachment.\u201d I can\u2019t get enough of that! I love it, because it keeps me light. And there\u2019s so much humor in the antics of the ego. There\u2019s so much humor in the warfare between the ego and the soul. Watching it with a smile breaks down the heaviness of our situation. Because our situation is very heavy. We haven\u2019t graduated, so we\u2019ve come back again. [Laughs.] And if we want to dwell on that thought, it can be a miserable one. But I choose not to.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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