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\"Gitanjali<\/a>Gitanjali serves as the main choir director in the music ministry at Ananda Europa in Assisi, Italy. She also assists Mantrini and Kirtani in directing a beginner\u2019s choir.<\/strong> (Photo: 2000s)<\/em><\/p>\n

Q:<\/strong> Did you have an early background in music?<\/p>\n

Gitanjali:<\/strong> I sang in choirs in junior and senior high school, and I studied piano for a year \u2013 just enough to be able to pick up the harmonium and play the starting notes for our choir, but that\u2019s about it. Most of my experience has been with Swamiji\u2019s music, and it\u2019s been amazing to find that I never, ever get tired of it, even though I started singing forty-one years ago, in 1978. It\u2019s always fresh and new for me, every time.<\/p>\n

I was living in Colorado where we had a little group that was beginning to learn some of the music, and then I moved to the Ananda House in San Francisco and sang in a group with Ram and Dianna. And when I moved to the Village, Jeannie got me involved with the choir. So I\u2019ve always been singing.<\/p>\n

During the last winter that I lived at Ananda Village, our director went on tour with the Oratorio, so the Village choir needed a leader, and I took over at Christmastime. That was in 1988, and it was my first experience not only of directing the choir but of organizing the Christmas events, including the smaller groups, so I got thrown in at the deep end, but it was a wonderful experience and very inspiring.<\/p>\n

Then I was invited to move to Italy because they were starting a choir and they needed singers, and I sang in that choir for about a year. When the director went back to the U.S. I took it over, and for the last fifteen years I\u2019ve directed the choir continuously. I think I may be one of the longest-running choir directors in the Ananda world.<\/p>\n

When Claudio and I moved to India, Kirtani and Mantrini took over the music here, and I directed a choir in India until Dharmini took it over, and of course I was always singing. Then after we\u2019d been back in Assisi for about a year, Mantrini had a baby and Kirtani had become the center\u2019s spiritual director, so they no longer had time, and I became the director again.<\/p>\n

Q:<\/strong> How is it different directing in Italy than in the U.S. or India?<\/p>\n

Gitanjali:<\/strong> We have an international choir and we sing in Italian and English. I think the main difference is that we sing more often \u2013 we have a rehearsal every week, and we sing at guest orientations on Friday evenings and again on Sunday evening, and we actually do a full concert on Thursday evening.<\/p>\n

Lots of people have mentioned what a beautiful sound the choir has \u2013 even Swamiji mentioned it \u2013 and I think it\u2019s probably for two reasons. One is that so many of us have been singing together for at least thirty years, and we sing three or four times a week without fail, year-round, so there\u2019s a harmony and attunement among the choir members. And also, singing so much, people learn the parts really well so they\u2019re able to more or less forget the technical side and tune into the inspiration of the piecess.<\/p>\n

Q:<\/strong> Has your understanding of your role as a music director evolved?<\/p>\n

Gitanjali:<\/strong> Definitely. I see an important part of my role as helping the choir keep their inspiration high. I always try to go deep into the meaning of the songs and communicate it as best I can.<\/p>\n

It\u2019s made a big difference for me personally, because every time I meditate on what a song means I learn something new.<\/p>\n

We just sang the second half of the Oratorio for Easter, and we\u2019ve sung those songs a million times, but I tried to tune into the music more deeply than ever. For example, with the song \u201cYou Remain Our Friend\u201d I asked what was happening in that moment \u2013 what was Swamiji trying to transmit, or better, what was he feeling that he was trying to express? And what was he feeling from his inner communion with Christ? It\u2019s been an inspiring practice for me, and I think it helps keep the songs alive for the singers.<\/p>\n

I\u2019ve had to think creatively about arrangements, and how to use the musicians in the best way. The creative side has been trying to tune into the inspiration Swami had when he wrote a song, and feeling what the song is trying to transmit, then drawing that inner meaning out of the choir as I work with them.<\/p>\n

Q:<\/strong> Are there any special methods you use? David Eby does certain exercises with the singers. The group will sing a passage, and then they\u2019ll be silent before they sing it again, and they find the inspiration growing.<\/p>\n

Gitanjali:<\/strong> I haven\u2019t done that, but I talk to them. Many of the people in the choir are Italian, and I\u2019m always helping them understand what the song means in English. I\u2019ve made a compilation of Italian translations of most of the music, not for singing because the translations aren\u2019t all singable, but as poetry so they can read it and tune into the meaning.<\/p>\n

Before we sing I try to communicate what I feel is the message of the song. I may have them sing it and then I\u2019ll talk and share what I\u2019m feeling from the song, and we\u2019ll sing it again. And there\u2019s always a difference \u2013 it\u2019s deeper, and I can see in their faces that they\u2019re feeling it more.<\/p>\n

If we\u2019re singing \u201cYou Remain Our Friend,\u201d I\u2019ll suggest that it\u2019s about the crucifixion, and of course it\u2019s a serious moment in the story, but there\u2019s an undercurrent of hope and joy that we want to transmit with the music. And devotion, because the point is that \u201clong we feared to face his love,\u201d but now we\u2019re at last able to give him our hearts.<\/p>\n

Q:<\/strong> Is it tricky to help people feel something that has to come naturally from inside?<\/p>\n

Gitanjali:<\/strong> It is, but understanding the context of the song can help it be fresh. We sing \u201cYou Remain Our Friend,\u201d every week in the Festival of Light and often in concerts, and it takes raising our energy and looking for the inspiration of the song, especially if you\u2019ve sung it many times.<\/p>\n

We\u2019re a bit limited in that there are only so many songs that have been translated into Italian, and we always have to sing those because our audience is mainly Italian. But then I try to bring in more songs in English to keep it interesting for them. We recently started doing \u201cMa\u00f1ana, Friends\u201d and people love it even though they don\u2019t understand the words.<\/p>\n

We\u2019ll often read the text in Italian before we sing. Swamiji recommended that we generally not say too much in our concerts but let the music speak for itself. I agree, but if we briefly read the song it\u2019s usually more enjoyable for the Italians and they can get more of the message.<\/p>\n

Q:<\/strong> Are new people coming in as well?<\/p>\n

Gitanjali:<\/strong> Yes. Uma and Mantrini lead a training choir where they meet once a week with people who want to learn the music. I\u2019ve posted recordings of the parts online as an aid, and I\u2019ll usually let the new people know they can come to rehearsals and listen. Once they\u2019ve begun to learn the music I\u2019ll let them sing along at rehearsals as best they can, but I don\u2019t invite them to sing in concerts until I feel they really know the parts.<\/p>\n

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Gitanjali Gregorelli<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n

Swami said years ago that he would like to see everybody in the community sing this music. I very much agree, because it\u2019s been important for people\u2019s spiritual lives. It helps us get in tune with the teachings, because it\u2019s all there in the music, and because it\u2019s music and not just words, it touches people on a level of the heart.<\/p>\n

I\u2019m fairly lax \u2013 I don\u2019t get on people\u2019s case if they don\u2019t make it to rehearsals. I encourage them to come, but I give them a lot of space. The staff are serving full-time year-round, and being with the guests often from nine in the morning until nine at night, and if they need a break it\u2019s only reasonable to give it to them. It helps people keep their enthusiasm because they aren\u2019t feeling \u201cOh God, now I have to go to choir practice.\u201d At the same time, I encourage them to come, of course, and if there\u2019s a big concert coming I\u2019ll say, \u201cIf you don\u2019t come to rehearsals you won\u2019t be able to sing in the concert this time.\u201d I want people to sing from their own inspiration and not just because it\u2019s a job.<\/p>\n

Q:<\/strong> How do you handle rehearsals? I\u2019ve seen various styles. Karen in Palo Alto is fun to watch because she\u2019s very finely attuned to what needs to happen. If there\u2019s a bit of distraction, she knows how to whistle very loudly and get people\u2019s attention.<\/p>\n

Gitanjali:<\/strong> I do have an unruly choir, but I don\u2019t get too much on their case. We\u2019re good friends and we love being with one another, but I do ask for a certain amount of concentration.<\/p>\n

I don\u2019t talk too much \u2013 I try mostly to sing. If I hear something that isn\u2019t working, or if we need to go over a part, we\u2019ll do that, and if we\u2019re preparing for a major concert I\u2019ll spend time going over each song and rekindling their understanding.<\/p>\n

I want it to be fun, because it\u2019s so important that they feel the joy in the music. I tease Anand, because he\u2019s one of the biggest troublemakers. [Laughs]<\/p>\n

Q:<\/strong> Dambara and I were talking about how you\u2019ll be going along in your daily life, and an issue will come up and you\u2019ll think of a phrase of a song.<\/p>\n

Gitanjali:<\/strong> It was his song \u201cGo On Alone\u201d that helped me realize it was time to leave Colorado and move to Ananda Village. One of the lines spoke to me, \u201cMake rich the soil, but once the seed is sown, Seek freedom, don\u2019t linger \u2013 go on alone!\u201d<\/p>\n

I had helped create a fruit cooperative in Colorado. It was doing well, and I realized the song was speaking to me. I had done what I needed to do \u2013 I\u2019d sown the seed and it was time to \u201cseek freedom, don\u2019t linger.\u201d<\/p>\n

Q:<\/strong> Do you have suggestions for practicing, for people who want to learn the music, or the experienced singers?<\/p>\n

Gitanjali:<\/strong> I never studied voice, so I use the warmups that Swamiji suggested in a talk that he gave on using the voice. Mantrini will occasionally introduce another warmup. She has lots of experience in vocal production, and she\u2019s the primary teacher for people who are just learning to sing and want to develop their voice.<\/p>\n

I must have studied voice in a past life, because I\u2019ve never had to work at it, so I might not be the best source of technical advice. As far as learning the music, what helped me most was just listening and singing along to the parts recordings until the song became second nature.<\/p>\n

Q:<\/strong> Do you have opportunities to perform outside the community?<\/p>\n

Gitanjali:<\/strong> When Swami was here last spring we went out a lot. We sang in Milano and Rome, and many of us went to Spain when he was there. Otherwise we\u2019ll be invited to sing at an event in Assisi now and then. They know who we are, and there\u2019s a peace conference where we\u2019re invited to sing a couple times a year. There\u2019s a Wesac Festival in May, and we\u2019re usually invited \u2013 I think it\u2019s a pagan holiday, actually. [Laughs] But it\u2019s well-known \u2013 the choir\u2019s not going this year, but we\u2019re sending a kirtan group. So we do go out, and I would like to do more, but most of the choir are on the retreat staff, and if they all went out to sing there\u2019d be nobody to be here with the guests.<\/p>\n

When Swamiji is here this summer he\u2019ll have a book launch in Rome or Milan, and we\u2019ll sing for that. He\u2019ll also give a conference at a yoga festival in Rome, and we\u2019ll send at least a group of choir members.<\/p>\n

Q:<\/strong> Is the music well received at those events?<\/p>\n

Gitanjali:<\/strong> Very much so \u2013 People love it. If it\u2019s an Italian environment we\u2019ll sing mostly in Italian, but even when we\u2019ve done the Oratorio in English we\u2019ve gotten a wonderful response. They love this music here.<\/p>\n

Q:<\/strong> For people who\u2019ve been singing in the choir for a while, how can they deepen their attunement with the music? You said you\u2019ve been singing since 1978 and you haven\u2019t tired of it. Do you find that you discover new levels of the music, or new facets?<\/p>\n

Gitanjali:<\/strong> Yes, and it\u2019s especially so with the Oratorio songs. Asha led an all-day workshop on the Oratorio several years ago, and when we\u2019re preparing to perform the Oratorio I\u2019ll read what she said about the songs, and it helps me understand the message more deeply. I\u2019ve also helped translate the songs into Italian, and of course I have to understand the song to help that way. But I do keep trying to deepen my own understanding. I don\u2019t know what others are doing, but I can see in their eyes and their faces that they\u2019re feeling inspiration when we sing.<\/p>\n

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