{"id":1165,"date":"2023-05-27T15:54:36","date_gmt":"2023-05-27T15:54:36","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.yoganandafortheworld.com\/story\/?p=1165"},"modified":"2023-05-27T15:55:04","modified_gmt":"2023-05-27T15:55:04","slug":"conversations-with-ananda-nayaswami-mangala","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.yoganandafortheworld.com\/story\/conversations-with-ananda-nayaswami-mangala\/","title":{"rendered":"Conversations With Ananda — Nayaswami Mangala"},"content":{"rendered":"

\"\"<\/a>Mangala is an award-winning registered nurse practitioner<\/strong> who, at the time we talked, worked at the Sierra Family Medical Clinic, a nonprofit facility started in 1982 by Dr. Peter Van Houten, a physician from Ananda Village. Mangala now serves at The Expanding Light guest retreat at Ananda Village, where she is the director of Ananda Yoga Therapy Training. (photo: 2008)<\/em><\/p>\n

Q:<\/strong> You run the day\u2011to\u2011day operations of the clinic. How did you come into that role?<\/p>\n

Mangala:<\/strong> Dr. Van Houten left for six weeks of pilgrimage in Italy at one point, and he asked me to take charge while he was gone. It was a big spiritual test for me because it involved a level of financial management that was not in comfort zone. But fortunately some friends helped me remember that Divine Mother is in control. Once I succeeded in letting go of the anxiety \u2013 \u201cI\u2019ve gotta make sure this works!\u201d \u2013 and turned it into \u201cOkay, Divine Mother, I\u2019m here to serve You,\u201d I realized there was a certain grace that the clinic had, and that it wasn\u2019t going to fold in those six weeks.<\/p>\n

Dr. Peter came back, and he told me he\u2019d been thinking about letting me take care of the finances and personnel\u00a0for the clinic. I felt like I was being asked to stretch to a new level, and at that point we decided that I would take over those duties and become the office manager.<\/p>\n

I did that for four or five years. I enjoyed working with the staff, making sure everybody was doing okay while we dealt with the demands of the patients. There was a part of me that didn\u2019t want to be doing that kind of stuff, but at the same time, it seemed like my spiritual growth would no longer come from being a nurse practitioner. It was easy for me to be a nurse \u2013 it wasn\u2019t as challenging as managing a clinic that\u2019s essentially being run by the grace of God, and dealing with how stressed\u2011out everybody was, and helping them feel nurtured.<\/p>\n

After a couple of years, I went on a pilgrimage to India, and one of the things I prayed real hard about was that I didn\u2019t understand what I was supposed to be doing and learning at the clinic. I came back feeling strongly that I was just there to love and support people, that that was my job now, whereas previously I\u2019d been getting too frustrated with all the things I had to do. When people had personal crises or weren\u2019t able to come to work, I had felt that it was getting in my<\/em> way, but now I realized that it was my job to nurture and support the staff, and that people were more important than things.<\/p>\n

It was a big change and it helped me a lot. Instead of getting irritated and wanting to do something else, I could just give people the energy they needed, and, in fact, we eventually hired more people to help with the \u201cthings\u201d part of it.<\/p>\n

Q:<\/strong> Did your spiritual practice pull you through the changes?<\/p>\n

Mangala:<\/strong> Oh, yes, absolutely. That\u2019s why it\u2019s going to be hard to tell people what makes the clinic work. But it\u2019s just praying. Just saying \u201cDivine Mother, what\u2019s trying to happen here?\u201d \u201cWhere\u2019s my growth?\u201d \u201cWhere can I serve?\u201d Whether it\u2019s ministering to people or just doing the \u201cthings.\u201d \u201cWhere can I serve?\u201d \u201cHow can I stay cheerful and willing even though I\u2019m feeling overwhelmed?\u201d Also, there were differences of opinion about what we were trying to do as a clinic.<\/p>\n

Q:<\/strong> How were the differences resolved?<\/p>\n

Mangala:<\/strong> By the grace of God, with lots of prayer and meditation. Oh, yeah, and just trying to really focus on what was needed for the good of all.<\/p>\n

Q:<\/strong> Do the staff members meditate together?<\/p>\n

Mangala:<\/strong> Yes, of course. At one point, we had gotten to where we were so busy that we weren\u2019t doing that much anymore. But then we refocused on doing healing prayers and praying and meditating just before lunch.<\/p>\n

Q:<\/strong> Did it have an effect?<\/p>\n

Mangala:<\/strong> Oh, yes. At least four days out of five, we would stop at noon and do healing prayers and a short meditation, and then we got so busy that it didn\u2019t happen. But now, even if we have just five minutes, we make it happen. It doesn\u2019t take much, and it changes your energy, so that when you\u2019re feeling like you\u2019re being chewed up and spit out by the people you\u2019re serving, you have the patience to carry on.<\/p>\n

We\u2019re dealing with people who aren\u2019t at their best. They don\u2019t feel good. They\u2019re crabby, cranky, and they don\u2019t want to pay, and you\u2019re made to feel like a bad guy if you ask for money. It\u2019s a challenge, and for years we had too many people working in too small a space. But we all know we\u2019re there to learn to rise above our issues with each other, and our personal crises, and that we\u2019re there to serve our patients.<\/p>\n

Q:<\/strong> Has the spiritual practice produced changes at the clinic?<\/p>\n

Mangala:<\/strong> Yes, it has. We remind ourselves that each of us has to pray at home for the clinic and for the staff and patients. At our staff meetings we also meditate and do healing prayers for the staff and the patients. If the staff hadn\u2019t been living in a spiritual community I\u2019m sure lots of people would have quit rather than work through their difficulties. The spiritual path gives you the perspective to say, \u201cWait a minute, here\u2019s my chance to grow bigger than the problem.\u201d I think the fact that we\u2019re still functioning is a testament that our teachings have helped us tremendously.<\/p>\n

Q:<\/strong> Has the experience increased your faith?<\/p>\n

Mangala:<\/strong> Yes. The old building we had before we built the new clinic was being held together by divine grace. How the wiring worked at all was a wonder. That place was one of the best things for my faith, just to see how it continued to work because we were sincerely trying to serve.<\/p>\n

When I was manager, I would have ten people wanting something from me at the same time, and half of them were mad. I\u2019d be trying to decide which three I should deal with first, and sometimes I\u2019d snap or say something that wasn\u2019t very centered. I remember the first time it happened, I went back and apologized. I said, \u201cI\u2019m sorry, it wasn\u2019t you, I was just frustrated and couldn\u2019t handle it. I\u2019m sorry my tone of voice wasn\u2019t appropriate.\u201d It was Yasoda, and she said, \u201cOh, that\u2019s okay, I just reminded myself that it\u2019s not Mangala at her highest, and I sent you blessings.\u201d Working with saints is so very helpful!\u00a0 I\u2019ve always remembered that special and loving blessing of her response, and try to do the same for others.<\/p>\n

Well, you know, I\u2019m slowly becoming that highest part of me. But the point is, that\u2019s the advantage to working with devotees, isn\u2019t it? When you slip there\u2019s somebody there to bless you. It was like, \u201cOh, yeah\u2026,\u201d and you were kind of glad the negative thing happened, and that you talked about it.<\/p>\n

When we know that somebody\u2019s really down, a patient or a staff person, we\u2019ll spread the word and send them prayers and love. We do that a lot, and I know it has helped.<\/p>\n

Q:<\/strong> The general tone of the clinic doesn\u2019t seem at all disharmonious or crabby.<\/p>\n

Mangala:<\/strong> That\u2019s great to hear! I think we\u2019ve done a good job of building positive energy. It\u2019s a hard hurdle on the spiritual path, to try and rise above the negative stuff you\u2019re feeling and be in your highest self. The trick is to do it without \u201cstuffing\u201d what you have to deal with. But because we\u2019re in an environment that often isn\u2019t harmonious, we all feel we have a responsibility to put out energy to make it a harmonious, uplifting space.<\/p>\n

Q:<\/strong> How do you try to do that?<\/p>\n

Mangala:<\/strong> By concentrating on sending light to the person you\u2019re having difficulty with. By focusing on seeing God in every person. By asking Divine Mother to flow through us as instruments of blessing to others.<\/p>\n

Q:<\/strong> I have a \u201csandbox theory of life.\u201d Sometimes it\u2019s helpful to visualize us adults as kids playing in a sandbox. Then you don\u2019t expect too much, because you think, well, yeah, this is my little friend, behaving badly.<\/p>\n

Mangala:<\/strong> Yes, and when you can attend long meditations, healing satsangs, Sunday service, and so on with those same people, you\u2019re able to remind yourself that the ones you may be having a hard time with are children of God, just like you are. I know that has helped us a lot.<\/p>\n

Q:<\/strong> Do you feel God\u2019s grace when you\u2019re putting forth strong positive energy?<\/p>\n

Mangala:<\/strong> Tons of grace, certainly. There were some days when if somebody had said to me, \u201cWould you like to work someplace else?\u201d I\u2019d have said, \u201cIn a minute!\u201d But that\u2019s the lazy part of me that wants to cave in. \u201cI\u2019ve had enough! It\u2019s too hard!\u201d<\/p>\n

One of the things we\u2019ve worked on is focusing on what we\u2019re here for. If someone\u2019s causing friction, or someone\u2019s personal crisis is causing tests for the rest of us, how can we send enough love to that person to help them get through it, without buying into that negative energy? And, of course, it\u2019s by God\u2019s grace and by attunement with the Divine.<\/p>\n

Q:<\/strong> I asked Dr. Peter about this. Yogananda said that people in hospitals tend to be cheerful, because they\u2019re engaged in service.<\/p>\n

Mangala:<\/strong> That\u2019s probably true for us, yes. You\u2019re so obviously serving people, and that does help to bring your energy up.<\/p>\n

Q:<\/strong> How? By getting your mind off yourself?<\/p>\n

Mangala:<\/strong> Oh yes, and for myself I know that every time I have the slightest inclination to start feeling sorry for myself, in any given day there will be at least two or three people I\u2019ll have to deal with who have it much worse than I do. It\u2019s a reminder, \u201cWho am I to complain?\u201d And you always have that opportunity to see people who are worse off than you are, and it can really help you.<\/p>\n

Q:<\/strong> The patient with seventeen medical problems on their chart?<\/p>\n

Mangala:<\/strong> Yes, or just someone with a crisis in their life. It may be someone on the staff. It helps you not to be focused on your own little self.<\/p>\n

There was a point, four or five years ago, when we were all convinced that we were too tired to do this work, and that we would do something more spiritually based instead \u2013 we had even drawn up the plans. Swami Kriyananda will let things run along until he sees that you\u2019re really going off the deep end, and then he\u2019ll say something. And he said, \u201cNo!\u201d He said, \u201cAbsolutely not! You cannot give up serving the Ridge. This is an important contribution that Ananda will make to the Ridge.\u201d<\/p>\n

So we thought, \u201cOkay. What\u2019s trying to happen here?\u201d And it was a real turning point, because we decided that in our hearts we had to change the way we saw our work. We had to start thinking of being like St. Teresa or St. Francis, serving wherever God placed them, in the gutter or in the dispensary. And then it became doable. As opposed to what we wanted to do, which was something more fun and holistically focused and spiritually uplifting.<\/p>\n

Q:<\/strong> You\u2019ve considered doing more alternative healing at the clinic?<\/p>\n

Mangala:<\/strong> Ever since I\u2019ve been here, there\u2019s been an inner battle of wanting do something more holistic. But before we could do that, Divine Mother would have to send us practitioners to take over the conventional healing, because there are so many patients who absolutely need it.<\/p>\n

It\u2019s hard, when one moment you\u2019re seeing someone who\u2019s a devotee and you\u2019re talking about meditation or energization exercises, and the next minute you\u2019re treating somebody who\u2019s a biker or a dope addict, or who hasn\u2019t bathed in umpteen years, who reeks of alcohol and cigarettes and swears a lot. To go back and forth between those realities in a minute can be hard. It would be easier to divide the clientele, but part of what we\u2019re learning is that God is in everyone, even the person who isn\u2019t overtly following a spiritual path.<\/p>\n

Q:<\/strong> How do you manage to deal with those two realities on a daily basis?<\/p>\n

Mangala:<\/strong> We consciously remember that this is what God has asked us to do. The clinic is a wonderful expression of our willingness to serve others. If the clinic didn\u2019t exist, our patients would have to drive to Nevada City for medical help, and often they don\u2019t have enough money for gas, or they\u2019re not in shape to travel that far. As it stands, lots of people drive thirty minutes to get to us. Also, it\u2019s part of what makes Ananda accepted on the Ridge, that we\u2019re doing something serviceful and traditional and normal.<\/p>\n

Q:<\/strong> What\u2019s your personal answer for dealing with the frustrations of your work?<\/p>\n

Mangala:<\/strong> One of the things I decided was to redefine my job as being a detective. That way, I didn\u2019t get so frustrated going around hunting for things or solutions. It\u2019s a mind\u2011trick that worked for me.<\/p>\n

The insurance industry is changing so rapidly. With managed care, all of the companies are doing new things, and each one is doing it differently, so we have at least five different billing systems, and it\u2019s absolutely insane, and if you thought you could get it all right you\u2019d go nuts. You just have to accept that you\u2019re never going to get your job done, and you\u2019re never going to get it all done right, no matter how hard you try. And yet you have to do everything as perfectly as you can, because you\u2019re dealing with people\u2019s lives.<\/p>\n

It\u2019s like the spiritual path. You have to do it as perfectly as you can, but realize that you can\u2019t do it perfectly. We were so frustrated at one point with yet another round of insurance changes, and I finally said, \u201cMartha, we\u2019re going to find God through insurance changes!\u201d I made a little sign that says, \u201cI will find God through insurance changes.\u201d We use it to remind ourselves that we\u2019re here to find God, not to be in a cushy job that\u2019s fun and easy. Because this is our battlefield of the spiritual life.<\/p>\n

Q:<\/strong> How about the concentration that you develop through your meditation practices? Does that help? If I try to think of five things my mind goes blooey, but if I think about one thing at a time, then all five will get done.<\/p>\n

Mangala:<\/strong> We don\u2019t always have the option of doing them sequentially. That\u2019s one of the things that\u2019s very difficult. Some people can\u2019t function in this kind of environment. You have to be concentrating on what you\u2019re doing, even though you may be interrupted ten times. But you do realize that your meditation helps your concentration, because without it you\u2019d get fried.<\/p>\n

Also, we\u2019ll tell each other, \u201cWhen I\u2019m under stress, you\u2019re gonna know it, because I\u2019ll do or say this\u2011and\u2011that, so cut me some slack, or send me some prayers.\u201d We\u2019ve tried to work out an understanding so that we know when somebody\u2019s about to lose it.<\/p>\n

Q:<\/strong> \u201cAvoid me when I\u2019m standing in the corner, bouncing my head on the wall?\u201d<\/p>\n

Mangala:<\/strong> Yes, or when somebody withdraws and it\u2019s irritating you, you need to realize that they\u2019re trying to pull back and get centered, and that you don\u2019t have to take it personally. That\u2019s the kind of stuff we\u2019ve really had to work on \u2013 communication and compassion and praying for each other.<\/p>\n

Q:<\/strong> Are you able to get calm in those situations?<\/p>\n

Mangala:<\/strong> Oh, yes, usually.<\/p>\n

Q:<\/strong> Are there specific spiritual practices that help you do that?<\/p>\n

Mangala:<\/strong> My whole sadhana helps. I don\u2019t do yoga postures regularly, because I don\u2019t have much time, and I\u2019m not meditating as much as I\u2019d like, again because of time. But doing Kriya Yoga helps a lot, and doing the Hong\u2011Sau concentration technique, Maha Mudra, energization, and chanting. Chanting is one thing that helps lots of us. We can put on some instrumental chanting tapes and it\u2019ll help. When things are starting to go wrong \u2013 boom, we\u2019ll put on \u201cKrishna\u2019s Flute\u201d or \u201cRiver of Joy.\u201d Also, Dr. Peter\u2019s a great one for whistling chants, or someone may go around humming. It\u2019s probably one of the things we do most specifically.<\/p>\n

One of my most helpful practices is affirmations.\u00a0 Fortunately both Yogananda and Swami Kriyananda have given us many affirmations that help us to tame our minds, to move us toward being able to remain superconscious, even amidst the battle of daily life.\u00a0 I have several helpful affirmations posted on the wall in front of my desk to remind me how to think in order to stay calm and open-hearted.<\/p>\n

Occasionally somebody will say, \u201cI need to go energize \u2013 bye!\u201d and they\u2019ll run out the door. [Paramhansa Yogananda\u2019s exercises for energizing and controlling the energy in the body.] We have pictures and sayings at our desks, and those will often help me specifically. Sayings like Sister Gyanamata\u2019s, \u201cChange no circumstance of my life, Lord. Change me.\u201d [Sister Gyanamata: Paramhansa Yogananda\u2019s most advanced woman disciple.] Also, chanting mentally helps a lot, and reminding myself mentally what I\u2019m there for. Or looking at Yogananda\u2019s picture, or pictures of other saints. Different people have their own ways\u00a0of refocusing. Another thing I do is pray for the clinic, pray for us to learn our lessons there, and pray that God will be with us.<\/p>\n

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